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Hey All,
Decided that I'm going to post most Aussiex updates on here, the aussiex page will be updated from time to time, however I think it will be better to support the UKDT. Big thanks to Whistlehead for introducing to this forum, loving the format!

Been working away at the project and I have about 80% of roads in the game, 10/11 bus routes have been timetabled already and the main focus on the next month is improving the quality from the beta and developing the buses and scenery.

EDIT (whistlehead):
For those who don't know (doubt there's many) this is a payware addon in development which Rhys here has been working on for some time, and which will include a number of real routes and buses from London :)

Facebook page: OMSI 2 Add-On London | Facebook
FAQ: LondonFAQ_WH.docx - Microsoft Word Online


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NOTE: As a result of a server crash during 2016, all prior attachments were lost. This included the screenshots at the beginning of this thread. As such, I've removed a little over 20 pages at the beginning of the thread up to the first working images. What's removed wasn't really indicative of the current map progress anyhow.
 
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The latest sneak preview, this time of the improved cab area :)
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@Rhys I don't think I have seen this question asked yet but correct me if I'm wrong but what routes (included in the Addon) will operate from which depot as I don't recall seeing this mentioned in the FAQ document either.
Cheers!
3/159/415/N3 Walworth
12/68/171/N68/N171 Camberwell
59/133/N133 Brixton
Rail Replacement Waterloo Garage

The remaining routes don't have a garage

Camberwell/Waterloo: Go-Ahead London
Brixton : Arriva
Walworth : Abellio

Golden Tours sightseeing by day/Metroline don't have a garage.

The sightseeing tour by night does have a garage however. Waterloo Garage
 
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Yes, I've been meaning to make a post about everything when I did this weeks update, but I want to clear up everything now.

The reason why the 'BOXED' version of London has been postponed into the new year is simply down to the fact that the New Routemaster has had to be removed from the package at the last minute, but don't worry, it will be added back at a later stage. When in touch with TfL over the iBus announcements, I had shown them a short clip of the NRM which they brought to our attention that a license will need to be obtained over the actual styling of the bus... It's not like the C400 where you can get away with changing the branding. So as this of course has a knock on affect with pretty much everything, Aerosoft have to redesign the CD cover with a different bus as the cover girl.

So now I'm just trying to figure out a plan and re-write the manual and remove some chrono features.

This means the final buses included in the download version are C400, B5LH (SRM and Gemini 2), B9TL (Gemini 2 Open Top, Gemini 2 London). The NRM will be added back in once we fully have the licensing from heatherwick Studios.

I have a massive update coming in the next few days. I'll keep you updated about the download version, as it will still be released this year, this month is most likely, as that's a lot more flexible than the CD version.


Hopefully that clears everything up. Also have something to announce on the actual day of release too ;)
 

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Heatherwick Studios (who designed the New Routemaster) have the intellectual property rights over the design of the NRM. They also have obtained "Registered Design Protection" over the exterior design. What this means is that copying the design or shape (even in a digital form) could be considered design infringement by Heatherwick Studios and as such they could take legal action over the use of their design.
 
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Ok curious question where is this map at now? is it with beta testers? and is there any issues as it's a week from expected release I'm curious and excited
Hi there, I'm still ironing out bugs, if you read previous posts, other UKDT members have stated that the 17th is a provisional date we are not sticking to. I don't want to rush through the testing process. I have stated a few times, the download version is flexible and can go out at anytime in the next few weeks. Aerosoft will do a press release a week or so before the download version goes on sale. I'm having to patch things up now after the New Routemaster had to be removed. This mainly effected the documentation and a few chronos. The release date is being left OPEN, so we do not get anyone's hopes up. Please do remember to read prior post to check if your questions have already been answered. :)


Thanks for your patience
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Heatherwick Studios (who designed the New Routemaster) have the intellectual property rights over the design of the NRM. They also have obtained "Registered Design Protection" over the exterior design. What this means is that copying the design or shape (even in a digital form) could be considered design infringement by Heatherwick Studios and as such they could take legal action over the use of their design.

Well if they were able to give permission to a model casting company for the design, im sure there can be negotiations regards to a digital object that actually, thinking of terms of the whole Addon, the bus would be added at no extra cost as you can argue that the price of the addon is the labour put into creating the map and its precise scenery objects. This would be then in favor of the company as you are not actually gaining profit of a design that they have licenced and copyrighted unlike other merchandise which carries the bus image or model form.

Failing any of that jargon, could you not reshape the bus and add like a scania front and a president rear and call it London "Future" Citybus - just make a bus up haha
 

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If the bus was reshaped it wouldn't be an NRM, which is the entire point of the bus being in the addon at all. Following some research yesterday it turns out that the stairs, stop buttons and seats are all registered designs too, so you'd have to change large parts of the interior too.
Additionally, those purchasing the addon new after the NRM is added are still buying a product that contains the NRM, so a representation of the design is still being sold. As far as I know the current progress of license acquisition is Aerosoft being "in the process" of talking with Heatherwick Studios... when it will be over we don't know... :P
 
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I'm curious if specific dates are going to have road closures and diversions in place for a bit of challenge (such as the Rememberance Parade or the Queens Birthday etc) if any of the routes would be affected by these events.
So far, I only have London Pride, but I'll add a few more before release. There are a bunch of curtailment scenarios however.
 
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Rhys + team, i just want to congratulate you all on your work. I remember the days when the map was right path and you were using the SD202 as AI. Then I remember the early days of TSLP when the map became left path, and there was the NRM and the MMC and the modified Winsome E400 and the map was only £1... then the Beta, and the B9TL London, then Add On Londom came about, with the original E400, and the early NRM, and the citaro... and then you've come all this way to this stage. You've recreated the beautiful city of London and its iconic red buses well. You should be proud of yourselves Add On London team, i most certainly am.
 

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New box cover sent over the weekend. :)

Everyone who got it at Showbus now has a limited edition cover now :).

I'm preparing a whole bunch of new promotional screenshots prior to doing the videos within the next few days. Some screenshots will be used for the back cover of the CD box. I also have a last minute announcement to make a week prior to release. :)

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Just out of curiosity, is the C400 going to receive proper Euro 4 sounds for the add-on release rather than modified Euro 5 sounds? (Not to be rude)
Its a crossover between Euro 4 and Euro 5. Hence its Euro 4 exterior, with a Euro 5 cab. So no. it wont receive new sounds. Its a C400, not an E400 ;). But a Hybrid variant will be available at a later stage :P
 
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Just out of curiosity, is the C400 going to receive proper Euro 4 sounds for the add-on release rather than modified Euro 5 sounds? (Not to be rude)
The C400 sounds are staying as they are. If you look carefully, you'll notice that the whole bus is a combination of Euro 4 and 5 features - the engine grill is E4, the dash is E5, the front end interior mouldings are E4 and the sounds are E5 :P
 
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Just out of curiosity, is the C400 going to receive proper Euro 4 sounds for the add-on release rather than modified Euro 5 sounds? (Not to be rude)
Um seen as London Enviro's are mostly Euro 5, no. Also recording a Euro 4 E400 would be a challenge, due to lack of a rev counter. However I have a depot visit booked saturday, where new sounds will be recorded. DISCLAIMER: The sounds for the C400 bus will match real life Euro 5 ZF Ecolife sounds, I personally will NOT be making any other changes to the C400 sounds such as voith mods or what not, that is for you to make. End of.
 

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